a little help with scratchbuild Hydrans

mearsa · Post by **mearsa** » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:02 pm

I'm attempting to scratchbuild a Hydran fleet and, unfortunately, I don't have any ships of my own or players near me that do. I have been guestimating ship lengths based on some pics and I don't know how close I am. If any of you have a Hydran fleet and wouldn't mind giving me lengths in milimeters, I would greatly appreciate it. Also, if I left any ships out, please inform me.
Here are my rough guesses.

Hydran Stinger Fighter 15mm
Hydran Harrier PF 25mm
Gendarme Police Ship (cutter) 25mm
Hydran Scout 30mm
Hunter Frigate 30mm
Buffalo Hunter War Destroyer 30mm
Lancer Destroyer 40mm
Monarch Battleship 50mm
Liege Light Dreadnought 55mm
Paladin Dreadnought 60mm
Mohawk NCA/ 65mm
Hydran Horseman/Traveler Light Cruiser 65mm
Mongol War Cruiser 70mm
Ranger Heavy Cruiser RN 80mm
Overlord Heavy Battlecruiser 85mm
Pegasus cruiser ???

Dan Ibekwe · Post by **Dan Ibekwe** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:22 pm

These are my measurements; note there may be some variation (older SL2300 et.c miniatures tend to be a little larger).

Hunter FF, DWs; 18mm
Lancer and other DDs; 44mm
CWs and NCAs; 60mm
Ranger and other CAs; 75mm
Overlord BCH; 80mm
DNs and BBs; 63mm
Pegasus; 37mm

Fighters and shuttles - about 4mm, but very much overscale to allow them to be recognisable.

Yes, the DNs *are* shorter than the heavy cruisers. *Shrug*.

mearsa · Post by **mearsa** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:40 pm

Thanks for the help. I'll post some pics when I get something worth seeing.

mearsa · Post by **mearsa** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:39 pm

I finally have something worth looking at. They are actually paper models. They have a little Adam Turner inspiration. These are not finals but test builds.

While I'm at it, does anyone know how to get the pics to show instead of just the links?

Paladin Dreadnought

DNL, DN & BB

trynda1701 · Post by **trynda1701** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:39 pm

One word. SWEEEET!

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:12 pm

Holy crap! Those are incredible! I look forward to seeing the final builds; those are great!

mearsa · Post by **mearsa** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:29 pm

Thanks, The DN is pretty close to what the final will look like along with the Kzinti and the Tholian.
I didn't know if any of you guys would be into paper as a construction method. I know some can be a little purist about their minis. My thoughts were, I can print up and make a fleet in a really short time, I can customize as needed and if a model falls off the table and gets stepped on, I won't want to curl up in the corner in a fetal position over the loss.

semperatis · Post by **semperatis** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:46 pm

Wonderful idea and a lot easier to do than plasticard versions.

koogie · Post by **koogie** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:24 pm

Wow! Show us more!

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:27 pm

Those are wonderful.

I'd highly recommend putting the pictures up in a way that gets SVC's attention (or emailing them to him). You could have the makings of a new product line there (printed or e23).

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:58 am

mearsa wrote:I finally have something worth looking at. They are actually paper models. They hace a little Adam Turner inspiration. These are not finals but test builds.

While I'm at it, does anyone know how to get the pics to show instead of just the links?

You need to use the img tags...
[img]http://image_url[/img]

like so:

Paladin Dreadnought

DNL, DN & BB

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:58 am

Great job on those, BTW!

mearsa · Post by **mearsa** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:10 pm

djdood wrote:Those are wonderful.

I'd highly recommend putting the pictures up in a way that gets SVC's attention (or emailing them to him). You could have the makings of a new product line there (printed or e23).

Believe Me, if I thought I could start my own line, I would jump at the opportunity. However, I don't really think my skill level is ready for prime time when compared to some of the commercial stuff out there.

I started out making an archeo Tholian set
These were a little oversized and have been scaled down. I was also playing with different color schemes.

You might recognize a paper version of Scoutdad's tholian battleship (I hope you don't mind)

I haven't done the fighter or the neo tholians as of yet.

Then I started working on the Kzinti

Drone, TAAS Fighter, TAAS Fighter squad, "Needle" Fast patrol craft (the fighter is a little out of scale, I'll need to go back and shrink it up a bit)

Tug with 2 pods, Frigate, Destroyer, War Destroyer

Light Cruiser, Medium Cruiser, New Heavy Cruiser

Battle Cruiser, Heavy Battle Cruiser, Fast Battle Cruiser

Dreadnought & battleship

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:23 pm

Those are defineitely in the "Pretty Cool!" catagory.

My only criticism would be wiht the Archeo-Tholians.
Remember, all of hte Archeo-Tholinas were created by welding two or more of the PC hulls together to make a bigger craft.
You need to maintain that ratio when creating the paper versions.
The CA should be two PCs welded side by side...
The DN should be three...
And the BB should be 6 PCs...

Other than that, I love them.

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:41 pm

In his defense, he did say he was playing with the sizing. Ignoring the sizing issue, he looks to have build the Archeo-Tholian ships correctly, including the CA, DN, and BB. (Incidentally, the BB is five PC hulls, not six.) Once he decides on the scale for the base PC hull, I figure the other ships will fall into place on their sizes.