Gorn Diplomatic Cruiser

Scharwenka · Post by **Scharwenka** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:50 pm

Hi,
Was there ever an SSD created for a Gorn Diplomatic Cruiser (either in SFB or FedCom) If not, what would some ideas to convert an existing one to such a ship?
Thanks

Dal Downing · Post by **Dal Downing** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:59 pm

Gorn Tug with a Starliner or Troop Transport Pod? Or being Gorns a BC or CC seconded to the Diplomats.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:41 pm

Well, nobody built a diplomatic cruiser other than the Klingons, but if you compare a D7N to a standard D7 with refits you'd get a pretty good list of the universal upgrade package for any empire's diplomatic cruiser.

Magnum357 · Post by **Magnum357** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:06 pm

With all due respect.... but do you guys just hate my faction or something?

Scharwenka · Post by **Scharwenka** » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:24 pm

Steve Cole wrote:Well, nobody built a diplomatic cruiser other than the Klingons, but if you compare a D7N to a standard D7 with refits you'd get a pretty good list of the universal upgrade package for any empire's diplomatic cruiser.

Thanks! Since I didn't see anything in the Ship Chart, I figured it didn't exist; so I'll look at the Klingon ships. I might have to go with something else anyway as I want it for a scenario I would like to write up.

I agree Magnum357: More Gorn!

Post by **Steve Cole** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:11 pm

Here is a rough outline, based on SFB data compiled by Steve Petrick....

1. Give the ship every refit that the standard cruiser is eligible for, especially defensive ones (phaser-3s, anti-drones). Klingon ships lose the shuttle bay drone racks as diplomatic ships need more shuttles.

2. Add one crew unit (diplomatic passengers) and one prime team. If the ship has a lot of boarding parties, reduce by two.

3. One shuttle is "VIP" which has no game function. One is a ground assault shuttle to carry the bodyguards. One is a fighter to escort the VIPs. Once gunboats come into service, add two mech links, one for a standard combat gunboat and the other for a diplomatic VIP gunboat (see Klingon G1N for comparison).

4. There is no improvement in command rating.

Nerroth · Post by **Nerroth** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:38 pm

On a side note, the R-section for the Federation VIP transport (or FFP; a frigate variant published for SFB in Module R2) notes that the Feds sometimes used that ship on diplomatic missions. Reportedly, they felt that purposely using a smaller ship than the Klingon diplomatic cruisers would demonstrate the power and security of the Federation.

Perhaps other empires might have gone for something in between these two options, for the purposes of choosing a Gorn ship class for your scenario?

Scharwenka · Post by **Scharwenka** » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:06 pm

All good information!

I probably posted too hastily though as I had my ship roles reversed and probably wouldn't need a Gorn Diplo Cruiser...but again, the information is good.

I should probably run the scenario idea by the Steve's before I do too much work on it...it's a bit unconventional, but I feel would still be enjoyable.

DNordeen · Post by **DNordeen** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:04 am

If it's a scenario, I'd suggest using a commando ship. You can say the barracks have been very lavishly modified to suit the diplomat's status. Cut the marines down to reflect just his guard force and some marines.

Dan Ibekwe · Post by **Dan Ibekwe** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:56 pm

If there isn't a Gorn Diplo-docus in the game, there really should be.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:48 pm

We had this gorn diplomatic cruiser conversation in another topic and I posted the conversion. Weeks ago.