ESG offensive burst question

KJ · Post by KJ » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:36 am

Apologies if this has been addressed somewhere and I missed it (and I don't have Hydran Attack or the RRB yet, so...):

Played a Lyran/Hydran duel today and shocked my opponent by using an offensive ESG burst as part of a directed targeting attack. Is this legal?

VulcanDropout · Post by **VulcanDropout** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:45 am

2nd star under 5N2d
ESGs cannot use directed targetting

KJ · Post by KJ » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:48 am

I have no 'stars' under 5n2d in my DK rules folio (rev. 0). Is this in a later printing of the DK book, Hydran Attack, or the RRB?

DirkSJ · Post by **DirkSJ** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:18 am

KJ wrote:I have no 'stars' under 5n2d in my DK rules folio (rev. 0). Is this in a later printing of the DK book, Hydran Attack, or the RRB?

As far as I know it's only in the revised one. It's probably in a communique too.

Hod K'el · Post by **Hod K'el** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:55 am

No offense is implied by what I am going to say; I say it to make you think...what makes you think an area of effect weapon can be directed?

terryoc · Post by **terryoc** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:07 am

Hod, it wasn't prohibited in the original rules.

DirkSJ · Post by **DirkSJ** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:16 am

Hod K'el wrote:No offense is implied by what I am going to say; I say it to make you think...what makes you think an area of effect weapon can be directed?

He didn't think it was; that's why he asked. He said he was shocked. But without an actual rule preventing it his opponent would be right and you could direct. Luckily this one has a rule addendum.

storeylf · Post by **storeylf** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:51 am

Hod K'el wrote:No offense is implied by what I am going to say; I say it to make you think...what makes you think an area of effect weapon can be directed?

Which reminds me - must check up carronades and PPDs.

terryoc · Post by **terryoc** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:30 am

Pretty sure it's "no" on PPDs. Carronades I think is yes, same as regular plasma bolts.

mojo jojo · Post by **mojo jojo** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:20 pm

According to Mike West, PPDs can direct target.

http://www.starfleetgames.com/federatio ... &start=150

Page 11 on this thread.

mjwest wrote:
mojo jojo wrote:Can TR beams or PPDs use directed targetting? It seems that they can since there doesn't seem to be any specific rule against it, but they'd be the most powerful weapons short of PH4 that can do so.
Yes, they can.

While it is true they would be among the most powerful weapons that can do so, they are not out of scale with other powerful weapons. Also, with that power comes a much increased chance of the "blow-through" problem that directed targeting is subject to. It is a two-edged sword.

Mike did not say however if the splash elements would be able to target if they inflict internal damage.

Kang · Post by **Kang** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:24 pm

Carronades can:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/federatio ... .php?t=395