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Inari7 Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:24 am Post subject: Briefing #2 whats in it? |
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Can you tell me the ships in this product?
I only have Klingon Attack, and it looks like a great way to boost the amount of ships for the game.
Thanks.................Doug _________________ I am board with looking good.
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Scoutdad Commodore
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 4754 Location: Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:30 am Post subject: |
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72 new ship cards (in black and white, printed in the book - photocopying required) for Middle Years ships
10 scenarios, set in the Midle Years era
1 page of Middle Years rules
1 page of Middle Years tactical advice
a complete, consolidated Middle Years Master Ship Chart _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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Inari7 Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Scoutdad wrote: | 72 new ship cards (in black and white, printed in the book - photocopying required) for Middle Years ships
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Can you be more specific about the ships?
How many from each race, that sort of thing.
Thanks................Doug _________________ I am board with looking good.
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djdood Commodore
Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 3414 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:40 am Post subject: |
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It's a mixture of ships small (frigate/police ship) to large (dreadnought) for all the major empires, slightly fewer for the other empires. The Feds. for example, get Pol, FF, oCL, CA, GSC, CC (along with the CLH, and oCA).
Note that very nearly all the ships are Middle Years versions of ships already part of the game in other products. If you are looking for completely new ships, this isn't the product you want (and you should look into the various "Attack" expansions).
[Edited by author to remove error] _________________
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terryoc Captain
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Although, with the Reference Rulebook, this book, and a map and counters, you could play games with most of the empires already in teh game - only exceptions are Selts, M81 galaxy Tholians, and LDR. _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West
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mjwest Commodore
Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 4075 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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The list of ships (and scenarios) is given in this Briefing #2 thread. Note that the Fed DN, DD, and DDM are not included, as they must wait for Booster #91. However, first and third of those ships are available already in Communique. (The DD is in Communique, too, but it is not the Middle Years version.)
And Terry is completely correct: Assuming you already have counters and maps to spare, the Reference Rulebook and Briefing #2 give you a ready-made game with tons of options for $35. _________________
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Inari7 Lieutenant JG
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds great,
I have Klingon Border? the basic game with the Reversion 4 rule book.
Getting the more updated rule book and a taste of all the diffrent races in one book sounds like a good Idea.
which races are included I assume Fed, Gorn, Klingons, Kizinti.
How about the Lyrons, Hydrons, and others?
How do the middle years ships differ from the ships in the Klingon border? _________________ I am board with looking good.
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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Inari7 wrote: | which races are included I assume Fed, Gorn, Klingons, Kizinti.
How about the Lyrons, Hydrons, and others? |
Generic units, usuable by all races... Light Monitor, etc
Federation
Klingon
Romulan
Kzinti
Gorn
Tholian
Orion
Hydran
Lyran
Inari7 wrote: | How do the middle years ships differ from the ships in the Klingon border? |
Generally speaking, they have weaker off-side shielding (i.e., the #3, 4, and 5 shields have not yet been upgraded)
And they ahve fewer weapons
there are other minor differneces, but those are the biggies
Oh yeah, Hydrans haven't developed Hellbores yet, so all the Hydran ships are the fusion variants. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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Dan Ibekwe Commander
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I got another look at this over the weekend.
The Ranger has lost three of her fighters.
Since the 'mainstream' Ranger published in a Communique a while back had the full complement of nine Stingers, could I put in a plea that the ship card in Hydran Attack retains the full SFB complement of nine?
Probably too late, I know. |
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terryoc Captain
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Dan, the Briefing #2 Ranger has only six stinger-1s. The Main Era version has always had nine Stinger-2s, AFAIK. There must have been a refit that added the extra Stingers. _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West
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Steve Cole Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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The Ranger in Hydran attack has 9 stinger-2s _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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Dan Ibekwe Commander
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm relieved to hear that, thanks Steve.
Terry - As far as I know, the Ranger has always carried nine fighters in SFB. Perhaps the reduction in Briefing #2 was due to the more restricted half-page control sheet? |
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mjwest Commodore
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Nah, I am sure the Middle Years Ranger was cut down to six fighters just to keep in more in scale with its other opponents. But it is a Middle Years thing, so don't worry too much about it. _________________
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