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Vanguard Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: Drones? |
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Okay, here's a new question for everyone.
I've drawn the phaser emitters (based on the Desilu water heaters), the photon torpedoes, and all that .... but now, one weapon remains...
What does a Federation Drone actually look like? |
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djdood Commodore
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think the art on the counters is as definitive as there is available. There was an article (maybe a "to question Why") in a CapLog that showed how drone racks work that had larger views of the various drone types. They've also been shown on art for scatter-pack shuttles. _________________
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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Every time I've seen a line art drawing of a drone, it has reminded me of a typical air-to-air missile:
long,thin cylindrical body - pointed nose cone, 3 or 4 large fins at the rear (or bottom) end of the drone body, and smaller fins up near the nose.
It's not a lot to go on, but I hope it helps. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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Dal Downing Commander
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I seem to recall some where in the 80's reading that SVC said they look alot like Pheonix Air to Air Missiles, (which is why I always keep a eye out for a sutbaly scaled pack of accesories to use for my Drone Markers) but really it is a Missile so does it really matter what it look like just draw some rocket looking thing and you have it. ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ -Dal
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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Dal Downing wrote: | I seem to recall some where in the 80's reading that SVC said they look alot like Pheonix Air to Air Missiles, (which is why I always keep a eye out for a sutbaly scaled pack of accesories to use for my Drone Markers) but really it is a Missile so does it really matter what it look like just draw some rocket looking thing and you have it. ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
Dal, C-in-C Products makes a set of 1/285th scale Soviet Air-to-Air Missiles that I use for my drones.
They work pretty well, and at 20 to a pack for $5 - you can't beat the price. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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djdood Commodore
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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To pick up from what Scoutdad mentioned, the line-art for the drones does indeed look a lot like the old AIM-54 Phoenix missile (and the even older Falcon and Genie missiles). The body is "chubby" in proportion to the fins, in comparison to the more modern pencil-with-tiny-fins missiles like the AIM-120 AMRAAM or even the venerable AIM-9 Sidewinder. _________________
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Vanguard Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Can someone save me a whole heck of a lot of time and send me a scan of that line art (vanguard at pixelsagas dot com) . Also, if someone can post the max damage number the 'common' Feddie drone does, compared to the standard Photon Torpedo, I would be indebted. |
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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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A standard, type-1 drone does 12 points of damage. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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djdood Commodore
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Vanguard -
If you are doing damage output in RPG terms (Newtons, megatons, whatever), you'll need to do the math to compare the 12 points from a standard (SFB Type I) drone, versus 8 points from a standard-load photon torpedo. I'm assuming you already have the value in that equation for the photons (so you can find "x" for the drone). _________________
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Vanguard Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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If the weapons functioned identically, it would be 37.5MT for the Standard Federation Drone, and 25MT for the Standard Photon Torpedo. The PT, though, has a 'field sustainment generator' that allows a short-period warp travel which draws heavily from the warhead's max yield.
Drones don't seem to be fast direct-fire, but slower 'seeking' weapons, moving at impulse... so there may be an adjustment in MT required. That's the trick between going from 'canon' ST to SFB/FC, the numbers aren't entirely the same. |
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djdood Commodore
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: |
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As long as weapon damages work out about where they should in-proportion to each other, everything should be fine.
A Phaser-1, rolling-lucky, at range 1 should do the same raw damage output as a standard photon torpedo, as should an overloaded disruptor at range 2-4 (8 damage points = x Real World Value).
As long as x = a whole lotta hurtin', I'd believe any number.
The biggest fusion bomb I know of was the Czar Bomb, which was 100MT. 37.5MT with Trek-level targeting is scary enough. _________________
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Vanguard Lieutenant SG
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Today's fun fact!
At warp 3.2, a drone travels 885 hexes per second! |
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Nice. Do we get a fun fact tomorrow too? ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Would a spaceborne drone have fins?
Maybe for planetary surface bombardment I suppose.
Just a thought. _________________ "His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking."
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Scoutdad Commodore
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Wolverin61 wrote: | Would a spaceborne drone have fins?
Maybe for planetary surface bombardment I suppose.
Just a thought. |
While not necessary for maneuvering, the artwork shows them as present... and since mankind has added stabilizing fins to it's missiles for hundreds of years... that's a lot of ingrained belief to overcome.
I vote, Yes. Fins would be present on the drones. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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