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DNordeen Commander
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 564
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:05 pm Post subject: Cards as low-cost miniatures? |
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SVC, et. al.,
Have you heard of Battleground Fantasy Warfare by Your Move Games?
http://www.yourmovegames.com/#!copy-of-battleground/cu0c
The business model is to allow people who can't afford miniatures or who hate painting miniatures to have tabletop miniature battles. The cards also function as measuring devices for range and movement.
I love the idea of miniatures. I really am interested in a Call to Arms. However, I really can't afford to buy miniatures, and I detest assembling and painting miniatures.
If ADB were to produce a similar product, I'd be able to play a Call to Arms with them and use them for hex-free Fed Commander games.
The market for these would be your current customers (some new customers?) who cannot afford miniatures or just don't like the painting/assembling.
Honestly, ADB would probably have a little reduction in miniature sales but those would be the folks who are buying 1 or 2 miniatures every now and again. However, in addition to gaining sales from these cards, ADB would probably gain a lot of Call to Arms sales from the customers who haven't bought because they don't have minis. Games Workshop isn't losing money to Your Move Games, so I don't think this would be a money loser for ADB.
I suggest selling them in Empire Packs (Fed Pack, Klingon Pack, etc.).
I suggest making cards similar to Star Fleet Battle Force, but lose the weapon information and add 6 hazy "shield" lines so players can determine the shields hit. The back side could be half picture and half text about the ship.
It'd be a plus having marks along the long side of the card so players can use other cards not in play for measuring movement and range. Some explanation for using those hash marks to make a 60 degree turn would be very helpful. I'd assume range would be measured either from the center of both cards or the nearest edge of both cards. Cards with any overlap would be at range 0 and cards in contact would be range 1.
I think this would expand your Call to Arms and Armada customer base while giving your Fed Com and SFB customers who aren't buying miniatures a product to buy.
Happy New Year _________________ Speed is life; Patience is victory
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Dal Downing Commander
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 651 Location: Western Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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This concept is not new. I know for a fact a set of cardstock counters were published for B5 ACTA. The fact that MGP did not revive this product for NA or SF seems to speak volumes about the fact that they want a pure miniture game for ACTA.
Now ADB does provide those circular templates in first mission I am sure with a little creativity with 1" counters you could come up with SFB/FC counter. Maybe ask SVC if something like that could be retrofitted into the existing EPacks or something. _________________ -Dal
"Which one of you is the Biggest, Baddest, Bootlicker of the bunch?"
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Dal Downing Commander
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 651 Location: Western Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the late update I went and looked at there website the only starship game they have is very similar to Star Fleet Battleforcse. Might be something you want to check out to use as your ship card ideal. _________________ -Dal
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Scoutdad Commodore
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 4754 Location: Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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When we are play testing units for the new books (i.e., ships that don't have a Starline 2500 miniature)... we use empty bases and megahex counters.
Take a standard ACTASF base (one with no vertical peg...) and using Blu'Tac (or other temporary adhesive), simply affix a Federation Commander megahex counter to the base.
This gives you an excellent representation of the unit in play, including facing - and using the actual ACTASF base allows you to retain the minimum ranges of the miniatures. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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Steve Cole Site Admin
Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3832
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Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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We have miniatures and megahex so the need for a counter sheet substitute isn't really pressing. _________________ The Guy Who Designed Fed Commander
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